Woman sparks debate after accusing other women of being ‘toxic’ and saying mothers often ‘abuse and bully’ daughters and she prefers working with men – but some accuse her of overgeneralising

• British woman sparked debate when she said women are more toxic than men 
• Shared on Mumsnet that believes women favours men over THEIR own gender  
• Some agreed, but others argued that her remarks were ‘over-generalising’  

A woman has sparked a fierce debate on whether women are ‘toxic’ – after claiming many favour men over their own gender. 

The unnamed woman, believed to be British, took to parenting forum Mumsnet , writing that she has witnessed more bullying, gossiping and passive-aggressive interactions in female-dominated environments.

She added she believes women will let men get away with more things than their female counterparts, adding that some women also favour their own sons over their daughters. 

While some agreed with her, saying they would rather work with men for this reason, others said she was overgeneralising. 

An unnamed woman, believed to be British, said on the parenting forum Mumsnet that she witnessed more bullying, gossiping and passive-aggressive interactions in female-dominated environments. Stock picture 

The woman began by saying she did not mean to suggest all women are toxic, and that she thought of herself as a feminist and supporter of the ‘sisterhood.’  

‘However the more behaviour I witness from women, I’m starting to stray away from seeing them as allies,’ she said. 

‘I have worked in female dominated sectors my entire life and have constantly had to witness cliques, gossiping, power plays, passive aggressiveness, and downright bullying. I had to leave my last job as it was affecting my mental health so badly,’ she added. 

She noted that her current job, which she started in 2021, working in a team which includes an equal number of men and women, shows none of those issues. 

The woman added she believes women will let men get away with more things than their female counterparts, and went on to say that some women also favour their own sons over their daughters

‘To me, it’s very obvious in person how women favour men over their own gender, regardless of how much “female empowerment” and “Women Supporting Women” is preached these days. 

‘For example, they will let men get away with mistakes they wouldn’t let other women get away with. Male incompetence is often seen as “cute”, whereas the same behaviour coming from a woman would be laughed or sneered at,’ she said. 

She added she believes this favouritism spreads to the home, and that mothers ‘worship’ their sons while ‘bullying and abusing their daughters.’

‘I now think back to my own childhood and I can remember many occasions where my mother would put me down for something, while supporting my male siblings for doing the same thing,’ she said. 

‘There were also a lot of sly, underhand insults that I didn’t realise at the time, that were never directed towards my brothers,’ she added. 

Many agreed with her, some saying they would rather work with men than women for these reasons. 

Many agreed with her, some saying they would rather work with men than women for these reasons

‘I wouldn’t say that women necessarily favour men. But having worked most of my early life in male dominated workplaces and then changing to a female dominated environment, I’ll just say that I’d rather work with men any day,’ one said. 

‘And woe betide a woman if she’s smart slim and attractive. I’ve seen women driven out of the workplace for those reasons . Men are culprits too,’ another wrote. 

‘I have never, ever had a decent female boss. All four of them have been unpleasant to work for in one way or another. The male bosses have been a right mixture, but in the main they have been decent and have treated me well,’ one said, referring to her female-dominated work environment as a ‘b****fest.’

‘I used to work with mainly women and it was horrible. A guy joined and he was so nice. My (ex) best friend is a toxic b****. I think women can be very supportive but I do think women can also be horrible to each other. More so than men,’ one said. 

However, some said the woman was overgeneralising, and that their own experience differed from her.  

Some said that the woman was overgeneralising, and that their own experience differed from her

‘It’s not unreasonable to acknowledge that women can be every bit as bad as men, but it’s not a given that women usually excuse men or favour sons over daughters,’ one said. 

‘Patriarchy wants us at each other’s throats so that all our time is tied up otherwise we could be ORGANISING ourselves, very scary prospect,’ one said. 

‘You make some valid points but your thread title is over dramatic. Don’t women have enough probing at present? In fact, being a woman seems to be the punch bag of the 21st century,’ one wrote. 

‘You’re over generalizing. Groups of people can be toxic, individuals can be toxic but women are certainly no more toxic than anyone else,’ another replied. 

‘I think women and girls get an unnecessarily bad rep for being “b*****” but it’s based on upbringing, personality, values and education, not their sex,’ they added. 

‘My husband works in a very male-dominated sector and the stories he comes home with and the emails he shows me are crazy. So many fragile egos, d***-measuring contests, and just a constant attitude of aggression. It’s a wonder they get anything done,’ one said. 

‘People are toxic, not women,’ another said, adding: toxic is mild compared to what men do to people,’ another said. 

‘I work in a place where we have to get on with it, the job is bigger and more important than individual egos, so I think these gossiping, b******* cliques come from a place where there is nothing that matters more,’ they added. 

‘I’ve met loads of great women in my work place, who I can professionally disagree with and we remain warm hearted towards one another afterwards,’ one said. 

‘Just focus on the fact that they don’t have anything more important in their lives than personal vendettas and talking badly about others,’ one said. 

‘I’ve worked with 90% women only & 95% men only. The men are just as b***** & gossipy & cliquey,’ another said. 

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