Holly Willoughby and Phil Schofield defended by Piers Morgan

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During their hour-long interview, the pair spoke about a variety of topics, ranging from the Royal Family and gender identity to fascism. Nearing the end of their conversation on TalkTV, Piers briefly discussed the comments Olivia Wilde had made against Jordan and used his personality and her experience of him in her latest film Don’t Worry Darling. Speaking about how he felt hearing those words, Jordan broke down and explained that he felt society was demoralising men.

Piers began: “I want to ask you this quickly, the film director Olivia Wilde, there is a new movie out, she said it is based on you.

“This insane man, this pseudo-intellectual hero to the incel community, incel being these weirdo loner men who are despicable in many ways.

“Is that you? Are you the intellectual hero to these people?”

Jordan began: “Sure, why not. People have been after me for a long time because I have been speaking to young men, what a terrible thing to do.”

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Before being able to get another word out, Jordan paused for a significant amount of time as he began to well up and get emotional.

He continued, emotionally: “I thought the marginalised were supposed to have a voice?”

Piers noted: “It’s just making you emotional talking about it…”

Jordan exclaimed in fury: “God, you know. It’s very difficult to understand how demoralised people are, and certainly many young men are in that category.

“And you get these casual insults, these ‘incels’ – what does it mean? It’s like these men, they don’t know how to make themselves attractive to women – who are very picky and good for them.

“Women, like, be picky. That’s your gift, man. Demand high standards from your man. Fair enough.

“But all these men who are alienated it’s like, they’re lonesome and they don’t know what to do and everyone piles abuse on them.”

Adding more fuel to the fire, Piers said: “When she said that, Olivia Wilde, it stung you didn’t it?”

“Oh, by that time, as far as critique goes, that was kind of low level,” Jordan admitted. “I mean, once I got painted as ‘Red Skull’, you know, a magical super Nazi, that was kind of the end of the insults.

“There’s no place past that. So, when Olivia Wilde made those comments, the first thing I did was go look at the preview for a movie, which I quite liked.

“I thought, ‘I would go see that movie probably’. And perhaps I will. It didn’t really bother me.”

“My family and I talked about it right away and we were able to respond to it with some degree of humour, which then people completely misunderstood.

“I said, ‘I hope that you know that if I had to be played by someone, I think Chris [Pine]… is a very good-looking man.

“So that seems alright, you know, and then I said something like, ‘I hope he gets my fashion style choice right when he plays me,’ and it was a joke. All that was a joke.”

Piers went on: “You’ve been so controlled today. And yet in that brief moment, you got very emotional, why?”

Continuing to get emotional, Jordan explained: ”It’s really something to see, constantly, how many people are dying for lack of an encouraging word and how easy it is to provide that if you’re careful you know, give credit where credit is due.”

Olivie recently explained that Chris Pine plays a “terrifying” character based on Jordan Peterson and said: “This guy Jordan Peterson is someone that legitimises certain aspects of [the incel] movement because he’s a former professor, he’s an author, he wears a suit, so they feel like this is a real philosophy that should be taken seriously.”

Piers Morgan: Uncensored airs weekdays from 8pm on TalkTV.

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